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Scottish                        Region

Minutes of the Regional Meetings

Minutes of the Scottish Region Annual General Meeting held in the

Perth Sports & Social Club 18 St Leonard St Perth on Saturday 19 October 2013.



J K Brown Chairman

J H Innes Secretary/Treasurer


Aberdeen Branch  

              I Robb  President

A Main Chairman

Fenton Vice Chairman

J Clarke Secretary


Edinburgh Branch

             J Purvis Secretary


Fife Branch

             B McHale Chairman

A Page Vice Chairman

W Murray Secretary


Glasgow Branch

             H McKinlay Chairman

A McArthur Secretary


Perth Branch

            W Alexander President

    T Cochrane Chairman


1. The Chairman welcomed those present and pointed out the safety aspects of the building.


2. Apologies D S Forbes (Vice Chairman), J Kirk (Perth) & East Kilbride Branch


3. Minutes of the previous meeting. These were approved, proposed by A Main and

   seconded by H McKinley


4. Matters arising. There were no matters arising


5. Chairman’s report.  The salient points from the Chairman’s report were as follows


• From the Annual Conference and the COM September meeting – Yeovil, Colchester & Bristol Branches had closed. The Buller Group are negotiating to join the Association. Scottish Region congratulated for its all round performance.

• The weeding out of defunct Life members from the Waggoner returns continues,  428 returns for various reasons.

• Membership rules. The proposal to alter the Rules was passed at Conference.

• Pairing with Regular RLC units is progressing to be complete 2015 – 2020.

• Cenotaph parade. The Association had been allocated 40 tickets 10 for Scotland. The Chairman reminded all Branches that expenses for members allocated tickets will only be reimbursed provided the members march with the Association contingent and are checked off the nominal roll taken by the Association Chairman Col Gilbert

• RASC/RCT memorial move is in progress. The final parade in Buller Barracks took place this year led by he Band of the Ghurkhas

• 12 Standards from various Associations attended the dedication of a new Pagoda at the Korean War Memorial near Bathgate.

• Armed Forces Day. Meeting tomorrow to discuss with RBLS the organisation of future Parades. Stirling is the host city for the 2014 Armed Forces day. Will the Region march as one on the day? A Main of Aberdeen said they were obligated to Aberdeen. Perth and Edinburgh advised that they would go to Stirling.

• Suggested that a register of next of kin for members who live alone be set up by Branches. A McArthur, Glasgow, wanted this to be extended to all members and be held by Branch Secretaries. T Cochrane, Perth, just wanted phone numbers and were in process of compiling this information.

• Battlefield Tour. Perth Branch investigating a tour in September 2014 to Arnhem and the Rhine Crossing. Details obtained from Lt Col Armitage (Air Despatch Branch) of tour they are arranging passed on to Perth Branch.

• 2014 Regional Function to be held on 17 May in the Drill hall of 7 SCOTS Perth. An advance notice has already been issued. Mr Cochrane to update later in the meeting.


6. Secretary/Treasurer’s report. Mr Innes reported that the Region’s funds stood at £458.18 but there was an outstanding recovery from Deepcut of £1113.50 in respect of accommodation costs booked by the Region for the Cenotaph Parade. Once this had been received the funds would stand at £1521.68


7. Branch reports.



Branch held a “black tie” dinner in April for 40 members with the Regional

Chairman as guest. 19 members and partners attended the Scottish Regional function

raising £450 in the raffle for Branch funds, the top prize being Dinner, bed & breakfast  

for 2 in a city hotel.


20 members attended the Armed Forces day parade in June followed by refreshments in    

Gordon Barracks.


East Kilbride Branch.   No return submitted.


Edinburgh Branch

16 members attended the Scottish Regional Function in Perth in May.16 members travelled by mini bus to the open day at Cultybraggan in June. It was a nostalgic visit, exploring what remains of the old huts and nuclear bunker; there was also a collection of vintage military vehicles on show.


28 personnel marched on the Edinburgh version of the Armed Forces Day Parade.


38 members attended our annual 'Cold Warrior Reunion' in July in the RBL Dalkeith, during which there was a surprise visit by the Dalkeith Pipe Band who played 2 sets. We recruited 6 new members on the day.On the same day, we were represented by our Chairman John Brown at the Korean War Memorial dedication service in Bathgate.6 members visited the last undress rehearsal of the Edinburgh Tattoo at Redford Barracks in July.


The Secretary attended the Association AGM at Deepcut on 12th October.22 members joined together on 19th October to say goodbye to committee member John Gilchrist who is emigrating to New Zealand to be with his son and family. He was presented with an SA80 tie pin / cufflink set by the Vice Chairman on behalf of the members.


Fife Branch.

Currently 55 members. Still trying to attract former members of 239 SQN based in Cupar with detachments on Leven & Kirkcaldy.


Having regular monthly meetings in the RBLS Club Dunfermline – no charge for use of the room. Have managed a loose association with local TA RLC unit, 527 Sqn and RSM the Scottish Transport Regiment offered loan of Mess property for a future formal Dinner night. Have had several socials with the Sgts mess members of 527 Sqn with more planned.


5 members of the Branch are attending the Cenotaph Parade in London. Hopefully in the future the Branch will attend, many of the local Armistice parades around the County.


Glasgow Branch.  


8 members of the Branch visited Stirling Castle in April followed by lunch in a nearby hotel.


The Annual dinner was held on the 11th of this month in Hamilton. 7 members attended the VE day parade at Knightswood Cross on 4th May and 8 members attended VJ day parade at the same location on 17th August 2013.


Attendance at branch meetings is about 10-15 out of a total of 40 members though membership has not increased. The Branch is financially sound.


Perthshire Branch.


Since the last report, the Branch has supported the Craigie Playgroup, organised the Regional Function, visited the Cultybraggan Camp open day and went to Balhousie Castle for the raising of the Armed Forces Day flag. The Branch continues to enjoy good attendances at Branch meetings.


8. 2014 Regional Functions. The organisation of the event is proceeding. Mr Cochrane Perth   Chairman reported that he and the Regional Vice Chairman had met the RSM 7 SCOTS and had agreed the use of the Sgts Mess and the Hall.  


As last year the local Air Cadets would serve the meal. The decision to use round tables this year would result in a small increase in cost. It was planned to have a glass of champagne on arrival and a bottle of wine per couple on the tables. The band would be in the hall this year.


A warning order stating the time, place and dress had already been issued by the Regional Secretary.


At the same time Mr Cochrane announced the organisation of a battlefield tour in September 2014, leaving Perth, on a Sunday with pick up stops if necessary, for Hull & overnight ferry to Zeebrugge. Based in a hotel in Ostend there will be visits to various WW1 sites with a day to visit Brugges returning by ferry on the Friday. Cost £389.  Details on the Regional web site.


At this point, Mr McKinlay protested at the way he had been spoken to at the Cultybraggan visit in relation to his non-attendance as Glasgow Branch Chairman at the Regional Function. He felt it was beyond a joke and applied not only to him but the Branch. Mr Cochrane replied at which point Mr McArthur uttered an expletive heard by several members which resulted in a heated discussion.


The Chairman intervened pointing out that the purposes of a Region was to get and stay together as a group not withstanding that Branch members are entitled not to go to Regional functions. All that was asked was that Glasgow Branch comes together with the rest of the Region and not slide away. Mr McArthur said finally that he personally preferred if the tickets for the raffle be sold at the door.


9. Election of Regional Officials

                     Proposed by Edinburgh Branch (J Purvis) and seconded by Aberdeen Branch (A Main) that the existing Officials be re-elected. Approved unanimously and the following members were duly elected  Chairman - Mr J K Brown, Vice Chairman-  Mr D S Forbes , Secretary/Treasurer-

Mr J H Innes.

10 AOCB.    Glasgow Branch intimated  that they would be attending the annual service to be held in

The North Glasgow College on 26th July 2014.


Fife Branch asked if they could hire a bus for the Regional Function. The Chairman explained how expenses were reimbursed but asked for costs.


Agreed to give Mrs Forbes a bouquet of flowers for her work in running the web site.


Noted that none of the Committee from East Kilbride had attended because of other engagements and that no report had been submitted. Concern was expressed especially as a recruiting flier had been sent to the Branch by the Vice Chairman as well as advising the Branch of a possible recruiting opportunity a few months ago. There were doubts about the viability of the Branch. A member of the Committee would visit again at their AGM to see what is happening.


The date of the next meeting to be 15 March 2014 in the Perth Sports & Social Club 18 St Leonard St Perth. Perth Branch agreed to order the lunch.


There being no further business the meeting closed.